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Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 35	Posted - 2013.04.02 07:26:00 - [1] - Quote This will be interesting if it's not a hoax. I'm all for pushing the envelope with CCP, as they made this bed and have to sleep with the fleas...and all the diseases they bring! But 3 days isn't enough to push the envelope far. Folks will just escape to Minecraft, et. al. until it's over. Has to be another Hulk excursion and lasting that long...and even the Goons won't do that (got to make isk and can't do that if Jita is shut down for long -- the other trade hubs aren't a substitute, most players are Caldari and industry is wrapped up around it). Wishful thinking. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 35	Posted - 2013.04.02 11:52:00 - [2] - Quote Andski wrote: okay noted expert march rabbit can you show us what is clearly your plethora evidence that 99% of what most people do in nullsec is PvE 1. Ratting (let us know when the rats lose their AI status!). 2. Standings grinding (especially at NPC stations). 3. Any trading involved (read #1). 4. Mining and all associated industry (your ships that's built in those arrays isn't a PvP activity). There's more but you get the drift. There's a lot of PvE activity that's done in the game even in -0.3 space, and you're going to be doing it. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 36	Posted - 2013.04.02 19:58:00 - [3] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: Heh so cute, he actually thinks a majority (or 99%) of us rat/grind standings/mine/manufacture in nullsec. Oh, you'll PvE, you have zero choice. You'll even feed the rats golden cheese and give them belly rubs and bubble baths. Why? You're an addict. So, get in line hiver, and get with the program. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 36	Posted - 2013.04.02 20:23:00 - [4] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: How many characters are in nullsec? We know one that isn't! "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 37	Posted - 2013.04.03 03:04:00 - [5] - Quote Tesal wrote: Goons have a thing for hi-sec. Its like they have something to prove. "We will terrorize the pubbies" refrain is never ending. When the money dries up they have to find new entertainment. I hope it's from cannibalizing their own. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 46	Posted - 2013.04.03 23:51:00 - [6] - Quote BoBoZoBo wrote: Ohh great - something immersive and emergent... again Have to admit it's a fun thought, though. Even the most dedicated PvEr, that's totally into trading, has to have a dark, dark, dark thought of burning Jita down. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 46	Posted - 2013.04.03 23:57:00 - [7] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: In other words, your definition of "failure" is terrible and wrong. Gotcha. You can't actually burn Jita down. It's a fun fantasy (I'd love seeing it burn from 10 jumps away even). How the game is setup you can try to blow up targets in and outside, but in the end folks will be trading as usual. And those who do actually trade full time in Jita have so much capital, than losing freighters a day won't make a dent in their wallet. As Goons understand well when fed off of Tech. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 46	Posted - 2013.04.04 00:00:00 - [8] - Quote Andski wrote: Desert Ice78 wrote: Well, my definition of success, requires success, which burn Jita 1.0 did not have. Couple of goons running around, killed a few indys and otherwise hid from their WT's or else ran crying to the GM's as soon as they got caught. Thats pretty much fail. Mynnna wrote: Total Destruction: 518.47 Billion Isk By class? Jump Freighters: 140.7 Billion, 14 kills. Average value: 10.05 Billion Freighters: 258.445 Billion, 57 kills. Average value: 4.534 Billion Tech 1 Industrials: 15.308 billion, 97 kills. Average value: 157.8m Tech 2 Industrials: 12.399 billion, 25 kills. Average value: 495.9m Exhumers: 8.84 billion, 26 kills. Average value: 340 million. yep that sounds like a couple of goons running around and "killing a few indys" A cost of a titan going down spread across every rich trader in the game. Pennies, dear, pennies. The traders will go back to flipping and scheming right after...and probably make a profit in the end. The game has gotten to be like many F2P games: cash fat and players are bored as they conquered the territory, and have little else to show for it. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 46	Posted - 2013.04.04 00:11:00 - [9] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: "'tis just a flesh wound!" - Ace Uoweme "Then I took an arrow to the knee" - Goons. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2013.04.04 02:13:00 - [10] - Quote Andski wrote: oh well it only trumps the accomplishments of basically any hisec corp High-sec folks have other things that are important to do. See we have things we like doing, enjoy doing. Not be bored even after paying through the nose for imaginery pixels, and have to find something to justify their existence. See, Goon, after awhile the script gets old. This is why gamers usually let the devs arrange content, not players. EvE is an example of taking PvP to it's extreme, as we know PvPers tend to bore easy and not really good at dreaming up new content (other than mouthbreathing at another red x). Playing other games you see this over and over and over. PvP is the cheapest programming available, players just kill each other for "fun". But once the game is no longer new and the power settles into blocks, even the powers-that-be, are sitting there bored to death. If High-sec didn't exist, Goon, you'll have absolutely nothing to do but cry for not only wasting 5 years of your life, all the RL money that was flushed down the toilet. It's why you do the High-sec stuff. You claim it's fun to grief. But in truth you have really little else to do or to show for it. CCP doesn't care, as P. T. Barnum's said it best: "...a sucker is born everyday". Stand tall, Goon. Take it like a man. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2013.04.04 02:42:00 - [11] - Quote Mocam wrote: This would mean those into combat would and could come up there and blow the snot out of those trying to gank all the time. That's a bit different than lamoid gankers lulzing it around - they'll actually get shot at and hunted for doing it and seeing if highsec's independent types WILL show up to fight back? .... You tell me - would that be worth seeing or not? Will they fight when they can based upon their chosen style of play or will they just whine about it? Bounty changes drew a hell of a lot of interest. This could be a first major test of it and the type of test I think could resolve some old assumptions about "carebear highsec" in a more tangible fashion than just because some null types say so. Precisely. What I believe is more fair is once a bad guy is flagged, and if others join in as the "law", CONCORD doesn't get involved. The posse now is cleaning up trash, and the bounty/security standing bonus is paid for doing it. So now the miners also have a reason to actually get involved helping their fellow miner that is being harassed, as there's a nice reward to do so. Anyone isn't a "carebear" for long as long as the incentives match their interests. Every year in WoW there's a world event called "Children's Week". One of the requirements is some PvP. PvE types rant, yell, holler, ask for the requirement to change ever since it was available. But guess what? They're in the BGs doing the PvP, because the reward (free master riding and nice mount) is worth the hell. Match the interest to the task, and "carebears" will PvP. But that's not the goal here with the Goons, they're bored and want more ISK (from the ship replacements). They just want more victims, not increase PvP to the point where it can crimp their style. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:30:00 - [12] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: This was a really long way of saying "please stop shooting me, I'm running out of tears". Projective identification fail. I'm not the one crying, here. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 47	Posted - 2013.04.04 03:32:00 - [13] - Quote Andski wrote: man it's almost as if there are games more suited to your tastes How old are you Andski? I feel like I'm talking to a 15 year-old, with the same level of reasoning skills. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 49	Posted - 2013.04.04 22:34:00 - [14] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: 'tis just a flesh wound! With rock salt. The one place the Goonies can't own or pwn, as it's residents simply, and truly, don't care. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 50	Posted - 2013.04.05 02:29:00 - [15] - Quote Andski wrote: lol post at me some more, try telling me why player-created content is a failure despite it working in 'eve online', a top 10 subscription-based MMO, for 10 years Sure I'll keep posting, as this is fun even. I'll tell you quite simply... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZwfNs1pqG0 And now you understand why you can't let the inmates run the asylum. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2013.04.05 03:15:00 - [16] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: Ace Uoweme wrote: Lord Zim wrote: 'tis just a flesh wound! With rock salt. The one place the Goonies can't own or pwn, as it's residents simply, and truly, don't care. That's not what they said while burn jita was ongoing. First time, it's a shock. Second time, they seen the show already. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2013.04.05 03:25:00 - [17] - Quote Andski wrote: guys guys i'm Very Angry about burn jita but let me tell you how much i don't care I don't care but i'm very angry about it, i just don't care They really don't care. Think about it: those who live in Jita live in the stations. You can make Jita a burning pile of rumble, but they'll still be trading. 89 days worth of stocks ensures you'll be tired of the burn before stocks run out to care. See your Hulk campaign didn't hurt until stockpiles were dwindling or gone. Be it commodities or ships. A 3 day burn isn't even a blip in comparison. A fun fantasy, but it's business as usual. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2013.04.05 03:33:00 - [18] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: Yes, yes, we know you don't understand how things work, you don't have to continually prove it. They speak and yell the loudest when it hits home. Your scare is turning into a tears. Want a hankie? "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2013.04.05 03:58:00 - [19] - Quote Ashina Sito wrote: Actually do this, would be cool to see Jita dry up as a trade hub, would only take a few months of effort and Goons could do something real to effect the game. They won't. It'll actually affect them. This is an event to them as they're bored out of their wits. Reduced to gatecamps in high-sec for fun even. And people are focusing on other things more important than them. So they ante it up. Problem is the antes have to get bigger and better each time to hold the same interest. When they're reduced to recycling old news its...yawnnnnnn... "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2013.04.05 04:08:00 - [20] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: Ace Uoweme wrote: They speak and yell the loudest when it hits home. That explains you posting so much about how much you don't care/won't notice, doesn't it? Because I don't care. I rarely even go into Jita. If it blows up it won't affect me. If all you Goonies fell into a wormhole to hell and never came back it wouldn't effect me, either. Nothing you have I can't get. Nothing you own I care to even want. NOTHING of your existence matters. So, yeah, I really don't care. Most players won't anyway. You're not paying for their subscriptions to care. The only reason I'm even posting to you is because you're there, and so self-deluded. BTW, still want that hankie? Contact Kimberly-Clark. I'm not your nurse. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 51	Posted - 2013.04.05 04:26:00 - [21] - Quote Andski wrote: ~40 posts in the thread to drive that point home, that you really do not care about burn jita well only enough to make 40 posts about it but yeah That I got how many of you to keep me company in this boredom of leveling skills, is the amazing thing. That's better than any fire in Jita. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 52	Posted - 2013.04.05 06:18:00 - [22] - Quote Umega wrote: while you may not care about the subject matter, you do care that you are right. I don't, it's stuff that won't affect me as I don't work in, through or around Jita. And the powerblocks play pattycake among themselves. I will defend my position that I'm right, through gunfire; bombs and worse. Done if before, will do it again. Now you know why I'm "confident"...it's not an act. And I like to find some enemies to destroy later. The biggest ape wins. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 54	Posted - 2013.04.05 08:28:00 - [23] - Quote David Cedarbridge wrote: You must be new here. Apparently a lot of people are new here. Some of these players probably have less longevity than my first toon. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 54	Posted - 2013.04.05 09:26:00 - [24] - Quote baltec1 wrote: Sure is a lot of people spending a lot of time posting about how much they dont care. Not much else to talk about. Smaller community = less forum topics (and seeded topics). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 64	Posted - 2013.04.05 11:03:00 - [25] - Quote baltec1 wrote: AND an EVE is dying post. You're a special snowfflake indeed. Did you smoke something this morning? Seeing things now? This forum does have fewer topics to discuss. I mean the threads are lasting over a week at a time. To fill the time I'm posting on another game site, as it's that slow. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 64	Posted - 2013.04.05 13:23:00 - [26] - Quote baltec1 wrote: When did post counts = community size? Who said post counts? Thread counts. Do you even understand how forums work? Smaller sites have less content. If you played larger player games their forums lightup like Christmas trees and can have a thread every hour constantly (with 55+k views for the better ones). When you see top threads here with 2.7k, yeah, there's not that much traffic. If you're used to posting with that much traffic, EvE's forums are s-l-o-w. I'm running back between YouTube and two other game sites and posting on them, and can, because I won't miss much. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 74	Posted - 2013.04.06 00:57:00 - [27] - Quote David Cedarbridge wrote: You just asked somebody in Bat Country if they know how forums work. I want you to sit there and figure out what you did wrong. And I want you to sit there and figure out why I know so much about forums...and its not just by posting on them or owning a license. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 74	Posted - 2013.04.06 01:08:00 - [28] - Quote baltec1 wrote: WoW forums see more traffic than EVE forums. Who'da thunk it. Even more sites and forums have more traffic, seeders and posters (let alone lurkers). It's because they spend time building on them, not navel gazing. baltec1 wrote: Also did you just call out goons on posting matters? Are you sure you want to go down this path?. Like they matter? Do they affect how I play EvE? No. Do they affect how I play WoW? No. Do they affect how I play BF3? No. Do they affect how I play EQII? No. Do they affect how I play Skyrim (or ESO)? No. What's "******" is anyone who thinks they do. The power of money. The power of junior high playgrounds are what happened 30 years ago (I really, really, really don't care, epeens are for kids). "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 74	Posted - 2013.04.06 01:18:00 - [29] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: "They" certainly appear to affect the quality of your posting. Just something to do while waiting for skills to level. And Heavy Missiles V is coming up, so brace yourselves!!! "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 77	Posted - 2013.04.06 02:42:00 - [30] - Quote David Cedarbridge wrote: Your premise is wrong so I'll pass. What the hell is a forums license. The hell? How is it wrong, when you don't even understand things like forum licenses? I give you a clue: when you're at a stage when you buy software to use; admin a server; get into the programming and design; then marketing, you do understand these things. Been doing it since 2002. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 77	Posted - 2013.04.06 04:08:00 - [31] - Quote David Cedarbridge wrote: I'll hold your hand through this one. I promise, it won't hurt a bit. In other words: I didn't know what I was saying, but trying to get out of Dodge with some face intact (extra points if using 10 other alts to help!). 0/10 Protip: Assumptions make asses out of people. So don't assume, as backtracking does hurt. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 77	Posted - 2013.04.06 04:09:00 - [32] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_%28logic%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Herring "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 78	Posted - 2013.04.06 04:27:00 - [33] - Quote Tesal wrote: Also, perfect use of the "*Protip" quip. You doubly destroyed them. Must be, when an alt comes in for a rescue! Which sums up this entire thread: idea released. Good fantasy. But not practical, but carry it beyond it's usefulness and now try to troll it to thread lock, to bury the failure! "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."* ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 78	Posted - 2013.04.06 04:37:00 - [34] - Quote David Cedarbridge wrote: Swing and a miss. Much like your posting so far. Let me know when Jita actually burns and business stops, k? "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell

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